How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Why don't we hear our own snoring?

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Non adipisci autem repellat fugiat.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

CONCLUSION:

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

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ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

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Now here in this verse

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

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I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

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I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Sain (a barber)

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ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

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Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

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All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

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You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

I am like a fish out of water,

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

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Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

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The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

NOW…

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

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Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Kabir (a weaver)

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

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How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

then who is there to know what happens without?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

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ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.